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Tiffany Menetel Shriver You're at your service. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:54]: Oh, no. You're at the service of the listeners. Tiff [00:00:57]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:58]: Tiff. Tiff [00:00:58]: That's what I meant. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:59]: Oh, okay. I was like, oh, I was like, I'm not I'm not that, Tiff [00:01:03]: I could be at your service too, Rich. No. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:05]: No. I'm not that exact of a person. I'm just a regular guy. Hello. Hey, Tiff. Where you been? Tiff [00:01:12]: I've been around here and there, everywhere. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:15]: Sounds like a country song. Tiff [00:01:16]: It well, I wasn't there, here and there. I I was down in, Nashville, Phil, and then in New Orleans, and then in Cancun. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:25]: That's way south. Tiff [00:01:25]: And then I'm going to Puerto Rico next week. So doing a lot of traveling. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:30]: Wow. Okay. Well Tiff [00:01:32]: Running away, Reg. I'm running away. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:34]: You're like Mercury. I don't know how we are even grabbing hold on to you. Tiff [00:01:37]: Funny you should say That Mercury is in retrograde, and it's causing a lot of people problems. I'm thinking that's what I'm doing. Running away running away Reginald Ferguson [00:01:44]: from that. Like it always is. Anytime someone tells me that, it always is. Like, I never know when it's not. Tiff [00:01:49]: Mercury's a bitch. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:50]: Well, I don't know. It just always seems to be in the state of retrograde. Tiff [00:01:54]: Yeah. I feel the Reginald Ferguson [00:01:55]: same. Hear someone say, Hey. Mercury is not a retrograde. Tiff [00:01:58]: Mercury is traveling on its regular path, and everybody is just fine. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:02]: Yipes. Tiff [00:02:03]: No. You're right. We never hear that. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:04]: Yeah. That's that's my point. That's my point. It's like you guys are a crew. I'm always here. Hey. You know? That's why Tiff [00:02:11]: I don't know much more beyond that, so I Reginald Ferguson [00:02:13]: don't think anyone else does either. Tiff [00:02:14]: I'm just throwing it out there for something to say. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:16]: Alright. Well, you achieved your goal. Anyhow. Yes. Tiff [00:02:22]: Jet setting. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:24]: Yeah. I know. I know. I mean, I'm just I don't know. Tiff [00:02:26]: To stop, to be honest. I'm ready to to get a job and work and And yeah. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:32]: Oh, okay. So Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless is it's coming, it's coming to a close. Appreciate that search. He got the reference. So, well okay. I mean, hopefully, that means we'll we'll have you more for, some podcasts because we always have interesting things to talk about. We gotta chop it up, Tiff. Tiff [00:02:52]: Alright. Alright. Let's do it. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:53]: Cool. You know, before we really get into our thing, and I know you wanna do you know, you're catching up as you like to do for us. That's what you say. You know? Tiff [00:03:01]: We just caught up. We're all caught up now. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:02]: Oh, well oh, okay. Alright. Well, I just I wanna I don't wanna be maudlin, but I really just wanna give a a shout out to, to the tremendous life of Jake Burton Carpenter of Burton. You know, we've had, Tiff [00:03:14]: yeah. Not know. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:16]: Yes. Yes. And, Tiff [00:03:19]: What happened? Reginald Ferguson [00:03:20]: You know, past, physicals, cancer. But I just you know, in light of a former guest that we've had, who's really a friend of the show, Joe Nelvey, and also my boy Jay Woods who work for Burton. I just know that there's a lot of kids out there, most not even just including them, whose hearts are really heavy. And I just I just wanted to give a shout out because, first of all, he was able to take a device that really was created, I think was called the snerfer, and take that and transform it into what's really now called the snowboard. And there are 8,000,000 people with a snowboard. A 3rd Rock Burton decks. So his impact, I felt, you know, from a fashion standpoint, It may seem like a little out of left field, but I think it's really right in the pocket, and particularly just having friends. So Tiff [00:04:09]: It's so weird that that that you're bringing this up because I'm preparing for this podcast episode. I was thinking about Burton, because of of well, maybe not this one, but An another future one. And about how wonderful a business model he created with the, with the giving back. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:30]: And, again, yeah, the Chill Foundation. Tiff [00:04:32]: Right? And also sustainability. Taking care of the environment. You know? Making sure that what they Put out. They take back and reuse and put it out again, which, you know, some of the company research that I did recently. It it just Burton is Really up there, taking care of the environment, which is very important. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:52]: Much respect. Tiff [00:04:53]: Wow. That's interesting. That's Reginald Ferguson [00:04:57]: but that's a wonderful segue though because you were talking about sustainability, and I know that's a little bit of your hot button today. Tiff [00:05:03]: Yeah. Well, it's always is. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:05]: I got Yeah. You always talk about it, and I'm Tiff [00:05:07]: always older I get, the and I'm I'm becoming that that Cranky person who is take care of this environment, or it ain't gonna be there for you in the future or your kids or your grandkids. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:20]: True that. Tiff [00:05:21]: And, you know, when you're young, you're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like everything you hear. But it's like the older I get, the more stuff I read, The more I believe, it's a serious issue. And we've got a lot of people in powerful places saying it doesn't exist. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:37]: I know. It's ridiculous. Tiff [00:05:39]: And it's like, look. Look around you. It exists. And it, it gets Just I don't know. It's it is a hot button issue for me. More and more. Yeah. More and more that I read for this podcast, actually. Tiff [00:05:53]: Because fashion. Fashion. Let's talk about fashion. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:57]: Okay. So break break it down. I mean, you got these you know, you're talking about sustainability. I've always really been a nape in this area, so I always like that you bring it up. I clearly know something's wrong to your point as I always like to tease, but there's really truth in jest. When the polar bear is on a little piece of ice. Tiff [00:06:15]: That's not normal. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:16]: Something's wrong. Tiff [00:06:17]: He's not there for fun. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:18]: Something's wrong. Tiff [00:06:19]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:19]: Hanging On for Dear Life? Tiff [00:06:21]: Yes. Something's wrong. Well, I mean, I can't go into the scientifics about global warming and what exactly is happening, But I can speak to the research I've done about the topics that we bring up fashion and its responsibility and In in the environment. And, sustainability is is the buzzword in fashion now. How can we make fashion, work from a place of sustainability. And that and that means, you know, from from using reusing things, recycling, or, you know, not creating too much overstock or, you know, making less Product, only what you need to make that you can sell, same thing as Overstock. But, it just, it's a lot of different things that, Fashion companies and fashion labels and and the fashion world, from all points of consumerism Can make a difference, and that is, all coming together, seeing this is a real problem, seeing that, this Culture of fast fashion that we have right now. That means it used to be 4 seasons. Tiff [00:07:36]: You would get your shows for 4 seasons. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:38]: Right. Tiff [00:07:39]: You know, fall, winter, spring, summer. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:41]: Sure. Tiff [00:07:41]: And you got your collections, maybe 4 collections, maybe 2 collections each year. Now it's, You you know, there are fashion houses that every 6 weeks, they put out a new collection. What happens to the other collection that gets taken off the rack to make room for the new collection? Oh, it goes, Gets sold somewhere gets sold somewhere else, and then it gets thrown out because it doesn't get sold. You know? It it's and it it also feeds Employment of people, at poverty level. They don't get paid enough money to make these garments, outside of this country, and it it it feeds a terrible environment for them to live in as well. It just it's a lot of things that are all connected. And, one of the articles you sent to me actually, was very interesting. It's, from I think it's, from high snowbiotic.com, which is Snobbity. Tiff [00:08:32]: Snobbity. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:34]: I mean, that's me. That's not you. Tiff [00:08:35]: I know. That's, you like that. You like that website because you sent me Yes, Reginald Ferguson [00:08:40]: I do. Tiff [00:08:40]: Quite a few articles from here. But this one, it's called the power of a global fashion boycott. And, I was like, yeah. Fine. Yeah. People are on the ground. So this group of in London Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:53]: I was gonna say it's in the UK. Right? So it hasn't hit you. Tiff [00:08:56]: I meant to write down the name of this group, but they staged a boycott during fashion week, this fall fashion week this year, where they they walked a funeral procession procession as if, you know, they were at a funeral. And it was, You know, for it it is it was for fashion and what fashion kills, basically. And, They had signs. They sort of, I guess, quietly, it it was a quiet little protest during all of this, You know, highfalutin fashion stuff going around them, and it really because of it was a funeral. It was quiet. It was It drew a lot of attention. And what what they were trying to say was, yeah, you can say sustainability all you want to, but until companies Start, limiting the volume of new clothes being produced every year. There's not gonna be anything that's gonna help us, And that is produce less, so there's less waste. Tiff [00:10:01]: But the problem with that is what happens to the company's bottom line. You put less out, you take less money in. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:07]: Sure. Tiff [00:10:07]: So these companies have to they have to be okay with making less money. And I don't know about you, Reg, but I don't see that happening. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:15]: No. I mean, I wouldn't wanna make less money. I mean, I find all this very tricky and difficult. I applaud you for your willingness to constantly bring it up through the podcast. I wouldn't know where to start as a consumer. Well, that's Tiff [00:10:30]: what this article was talking about too. It's like, you know, you have to start thinking in a different way. You start thinking, looking for the because I wrote that down. Bringing the seemingly impossible into our perception of reality. We need to say what's necessary rather than what seems doable in our current system. So you gotta go beyond what can we do. Oh, we can't do that. We can't do that. Tiff [00:10:57]: What's necessary? And then you figure out how to do it in you know, by invention. You know, things are created by invention. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:11:05]: Sure. Tiff [00:11:05]: You take the impossible, you turn it into the pa into the possible. So that's the way you have to start thinking. Companies have to start thinking that way too. So, and I and I it's out there. It's you know, the mind just have to have to create it. Something else they said, We have to stop consuming virgin resources unless it's in a regenerative way. So we're taking all of these resources, and we're not Recreating them. We're just stripping, stripping, using, using, and then putting everything in the landfill. Tiff [00:11:40]: That and it doesn't decompose quickly half the time, you know, especially things with made with plastics and vinyls and, you know, all those fun things that That you like to wear for maybe 2 or 3 times, and then you toss it because it's you know, it's fashion, and it's a fad, and it's over. Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:56]: Or it doesn't decompose at all. Tiff [00:11:58]: Or it doesn't decompose at all. Yeah. So I I it just it was a very interesting article. I love it that this this group did what they did, that they At the attention that they did, I I want them to keep going. I want them to become global so that That companies can think start being forced to think. How do I make the impossible possible? Reginald Ferguson [00:12:23]: Yeah. I mean, kudos to you and kudos to them. It will be very interesting if they go, across the pond, so to speak, and try to do a procession out here. Tiff [00:12:32]: I well, I think they they have every, they wanna grow. I mean, they have every intention of doing that. But they you know, you gotta you gotta go up against these big fashion companies, these companies who are supported by fashion, these companies that sell fashion. You know, Fashion world is huge, and it's global. And, it's feeding a culture of consume, consume, consume, consume. Oh, I wanna be the next best. I've gotta have the next best. Oh, you know, 1 minute, this is is is cool and rad, and the next minute, this is cool and rad. Tiff [00:13:03]: You know, there's There's constant, you know, grab, grab, grab. There's no I don't know. They they mentioned something that that I thought was funny, And it showed my old fashionedness. And, it was a statement about during World War 2, make and do mend Was a mentality that was celebrated. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:23]: What does that mean? Tiff [00:13:25]: Make do and mend. Meaning, you got a hole in your socks, Make do and mend them instead of buying a new pair of socks. You got a dress that's, looking a little ragged. Cut off the bottom. Make it a shorter dress. Make do and mend. Instead of making new clothes, you take what you've got, And you redo them, mend them, and reuse them. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:47]: Well, I mean, personally, for someone who has the number of suits that I do I mean, I like keeping my stuff. I think people get it twisted. But And Tiff [00:13:55]: you do great because you take your shoes to get repaired. Sure. You take you take very good Care of your jackets and your coats by taking them to the dry cleaners. Not often, but as needed. Very nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:09]: Well, I know New Yorker you know, to to New Yorker, though you're not a native, our carbon footprint is significantly smaller than the rest of the United States, and I don't know how we're positioned against the world. So because that ties into all of this. Correct? Tiff [00:14:24]: Yep. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:25]: So the majority of us, we don't drive. We use public transportation. Again, really I'm really finding my way here on this topic because I wouldn't claim to know nearly as much as you do. But I remember when we were talking about that bag manufacturer, and you were really excited about about the vegetable dying. Tiff [00:14:43]: Yep. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:44]: So I'm sure that it all ties in to what you're talking about. Tiff [00:14:48]: I wish I can remember the name. It was a UK brand. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:50]: Yeah. I'm drawing a blank as well. And it was a I must have it. So Tiff [00:14:53]: Yes. It was. I remember. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:56]: It was fleeting. What is that saying? Tiff [00:14:57]: It was a very nice bag. It was it was out of our price range. Maybe that's why we're like, okay. That's nice. Next. Yeah. Yeah. We moved on. Tiff [00:15:07]: But anyway, yeah, that you know, That's that's a it was a good article. Thanks for sending it my way. And I got tied into another article that you sent, that's also Goes towards about the environment and Reginald Ferguson [00:15:19]: I feel a segue coming on. Tiff [00:15:21]: Taking care of the environment. And that, article was about wasteful packaging Jing and how it's going out of fashion. And that's from voguebusiness.com. So I saw that, and I was like, oh, wow. And I I read that after I read the The go the global fashion boycott? I'm like, no. Perfect. This is great. Dovetail. Tiff [00:15:40]: And, what this basically, the the whole point of this article was, was, ecommerce, online shopping, and the growing number number of middle class shoppers are leading to a glut of packaging waste Even as landfills run full. We are running out of landfills. Right. We don't have any landfills, really. We're shipping our waste to other countries. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:04]: Yeah. The Philippines. Yeah. Yeah. I heard about this. Yes. And that guy is hardcore for anything anyway. So, Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:12]: It was a issue between them and Canada. Tiff [00:16:14]: Mhmm. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:15]: Like, Canada gave Tiff [00:16:16]: He was gonna declare the the president of the Philippines, Duarte Duarte. Was gonna declare war on Canada if they didn't take back their ship full of garbage. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:26]: Take your ship back. Right? Tiff [00:16:29]: Did you say shit or ship? Reginald Ferguson [00:16:30]: A ship. Tiff [00:16:31]: Take your shit ship. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:32]: It's a family show. Tiff [00:16:33]: Say that oh, really? Reginald Ferguson [00:16:34]: Shit for me. Tiff [00:16:34]: I just messed that up. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:35]: No, for me. I'm gay. You're blue. I'm clean. So Okay. Well, you know, let's let's talk about that as well. When I think about packaging, I think about paper and plastic. Tiff [00:16:49]: Yes. Everything. Like, you get a new shirt, half the time it comes in plastic. Absolutely. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:54]: All the time, I buy I had dress shirt Tiff [00:16:56]: And then it's got that that paper on the inside Yeah. That it's folded or the cardboard. Oh, look at it. Yeah. And then it's got the cardboard under the neck, And it's got the piece of cardboard that holds the button in place. Yes. I'm just talking about a man shirt. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:10]: I love it all. Tiff [00:17:11]: And then you get a jacket or jacket or suit and then sometimes Reginald Ferguson [00:17:15]: Well, suit is fine. I mean, suit. Tiff [00:17:17]: Well, suits you yes. It's most of the time you get a suit bag. Yeah. But that's made of plastic or vinyl. What you're gonna do, you can reuse that. Suit bags, you can totally reuse. But this is also talking about I'm thinking about when I buy makeup. Like, every piece of jar or everything comes in a cardboard box. Tiff [00:17:34]: Why can't I just get the jar And not get the cardboard I don't need the box. Why do I need the box? Or when I buy, let's say, Socks or underwear, whatever. It comes in little plastic baggies. All of that stuff ends up in the landfill Because it's just plastic. And as we know, we've seen all the the reports, the plastic is floating around in the ocean And these big miles Yeah. Mile long cesspools of all kinds of plastic. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:06]: Yipes. Tiff [00:18:06]: And it because it it just doesn't decompose. And the poor sea turtles are eating it, thinking that it's food, and it's killing them. Not to mention other species that are sort of suffering as well. But sea turtles come to mind because I was just in Cancun and along the beach, we could see all the Where they had, fenced off the areas where the sea turtles had laid their eggs. Oh. Because it's it's sea it's Reginald Ferguson [00:18:28]: It's that season. Tiff [00:18:29]: It's that season. So or it was when we were down there. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:32]: You weren't out there with a flashlight late at night Right. Taking the path. Tiff [00:18:36]: So, All of that is waste going to into the the landfills, and and all of these sustainability, proponents are are saying we've gotta come up with an answer. You know? When you order online, it has to be packaged in something. How are you gonna get it? It Right. Gotta come in a box? Reginald Ferguson [00:18:53]: Well, you were talking about online. You were talking about online. Right. And online has a return rate, which is crazy. You realize that. Right? Tiff [00:19:03]: No. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:04]: Of course. Because people will People will buy their size, and they'll buy alternative sizes just to make sure. Tiff [00:19:09]: Yes. I've done that. So Yes. I have. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:13]: You're part of the problem too? Tiff [00:19:14]: Am part of the problem. That's true. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:18]: What are brands going to do? They're talking about now compostable. Tiff [00:19:22]: Yes. Compostable plastic. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:24]: Is it just plastic, or is it just other items? Yeah. But what about the bottom line? Tiff [00:19:28]: It's made it's made from Reginald Ferguson [00:19:30]: a plant. They're gonna have to pass off these costs to to the customer. Well, they Patagonia. Okay? Patagonia of all people. And I I don't rock that brand, but big shout out to my boy Miller who does Patagonia aka Pataguchi. They're all they're all about they've always been in the forefront, correct me if I'm wrong, about sustainability, trying to do right by the environment. Tiff [00:19:52]: Yes. They use organic cottons in some of their clothes. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:55]: However, their packaging still in Tiff [00:19:58]: plastic. Plastic. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:59]: And they can't get over that hump. They tried, and they were like, we'll get back to this. So what is that saying if they can't figure it out? Tiff [00:20:07]: It is Right now, it's not the compostable plastic is still in its early early stages, so it costs more. It costs more. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:14]: You're gonna eat a lot more. Tiff [00:20:15]: You're gonna eat it. Another thought is Reginald Ferguson [00:20:18]: We're not we're not gonna eat it. The the customer Tiff [00:20:20]: Well, they could patch it. They could either they could eat the cost of it, Or they could pass it on to the consumer, either way. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:27]: It's the latter. The well, why why would they their margins are thin as it is. Tiff [00:20:31]: Right. That's another re you're you're talking about the bottom line of a fashion company, and we're talking about, you know, saving the environment. There's a there's a lot of things stopping All of these, you know you know, these plans, these options of trying to reduce waste, But it all comes at a cost. There was 1, 1 company called Repack. They had an idea about using vinyl bags That, you know, your stuff will get shipped in. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:00]: Right. Tiff [00:21:01]: And then you just turn around, and you return that vinyl bag back to the company For a certain incentives, like a discount on your next order or some some other things. But they've come They've they've hit a wall because the United States Postal Service was charging them $17 per bag to return, Which is prohibited. That cost is prohibited. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:24]: Oh, that's crazy. Tiff [00:21:26]: Yeah. So there's it's not just the company. It's The shipping companies as well have to get on the same page. Get on the same let let's be concerned about a climate page. It's you know, it's not only just the company who's shipping it and the consumer who's returning it. It's the middleman who also needs to Needs to bring that cost down a little bit. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:48]: I think that's gonna be really difficult. That's why I'm making a face. Tiff [00:21:51]: And another thing that, you know one thing that came out of this article That was very, very smart. You can, you know, you can do all of these things to make a difference, compostable packaging, reusable packaging, that kind of stuff. But the first thing you have to do is educate the customer on in compliance is the word they use. Meaning, You know, we're sending you this in a compostable packaging or reusable packaging. You need to follow these steps to make sure that This doesn't end up in the landfill, to make sure that that we are completing the cycle of this one piece of packaging so that it is either, recycled or reused or composted. That kind of thing. So you have to educate The consumers. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense. Tiff [00:22:42]: You might as well use the the packaging you're using now because it's cheaper. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:47]: I think this is really a whole reeducation process Tiff [00:22:52]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:52]: Everywhere involved. Tiff [00:22:53]: One of the articles said you have to separate Culturism from consumerism. So the culture of fashion needs to be separated from the cons the consuming of it. It's you gotta totally separate the 2. So you can have a culture of, oh, I've gotta have the I've gotta be the 1st one to put this line out or the next one to do that. Separate that from the The consumption of it somehow, someway. It's one of those you gotta think outside beyond the box, over the hills, and through the woods, and everything like that. So that was a big segment. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:26]: Yeah. It was. Tiff [00:23:26]: But it's important. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:27]: No. I I agree, Tiff, and, I defer to you on this because I I really don't know that much. And I guess now I won't buy anything for the rest of my life. Tiff [00:23:36]: Well, Reg, you don't need to. Apparently, your closets are, your closets have closets. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:40]: Okay. Tiff [00:23:41]: Alright. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:43]: Well, since you've come back, Tiff, I'm gonna take you back. You know what we're gonna do right now? Tiff [00:23:47]: No. What? Reginald Ferguson [00:23:49]: I found a fashion hero. Tiff [00:23:51]: Oh. Say what? Fashion hero. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:54]: That's right, fashion hero. Let's do it. Fashion fashion heroes. Tiff [00:24:06]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:08]: Tiff, Guess who my fashion hero is since we have not done this segment in quite a long time. I know you don't know. So My fashion hero is Paul Stewart. Tiff [00:24:21]: Paul Stewart? Reginald Ferguson [00:24:22]: Yes. Tiff [00:24:25]: Who is Paul Stewart? Reginald Ferguson [00:24:26]: Well, well, I'm gonna break it down, Tiff [00:24:28]: and I'm Reginald Ferguson [00:24:28]: gonna explain to you why after all this time, I I revoked this, this segment. Tiff [00:24:34]: Alright. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:36]: And the real reason, you know, we haven't in a long time is because you can only have so many heroes. Tiff [00:24:40]: That's true. I mean, if you have so many heroes or too many heroes, then It's they're not Reginald Ferguson [00:24:45]: gonna do the power Tiff [00:24:46]: of the hero. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:49]: So I hear Mariah's song in the background as we're doing this. So Tiff [00:24:53]: Now here we'll go. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:55]: Oh, there you go. Tiff [00:24:56]: Okay. That's where I'm gonna stop. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:58]: Okay. That's pretty good. So Recently, however, I was reading something from The Rake. Big shout out to The Rake. Tiff [00:25:05]: Oh, what a great magazine. Remind me. I, I Just remind me. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:10]: Remind you. The Tiff [00:25:11]: Rake. Me yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:12]: Okay. I'm reminding you right now, The Rake. Okay. And And I was reading their their email. I'm on their email newsletter, and they mentioned something about Paul Stewart. And I thought, especially in light of Barney's going out of business Oh. Which we didn't get to discuss because you were traveling the world, that they were worthy of this accolade. When I was growing up, I would see the name, the brand, and the logo, but I didn't know much about it, you know, candidly. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:43]: I'm sure my grandpa did, but he he was getting down with Barneys, Moe Ginsberg and Harry Altman, AKA Altman's. Tiff [00:25:53]: I'm once again, was that only in New York? Reginald Ferguson [00:25:55]: Yeah. Yeah. Tiff [00:25:56]: New York brand? Reginald Ferguson [00:25:56]: Okay. The old school New York brand. It still exists, but now it's Altman's, but I remember when it was Harry Altman. Tiff [00:26:01]: Alright. I was Strictly men's fashion, men's suit. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:04]: Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So, all those, well, 2 of those places, Ginsburg and Altman at the time were on Fifth Avenue. Tiff [00:26:12]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:13]: South of south of 23rd Street. So, like, they were between, like, 18th and 23rd. Now Altman's on Park Avenue South. Anyway, I was really, woefully ignorant of the brand till around 10 years ago. Very good friend of mine, Jerita Bridges. Big shout out to Jerita. She works right down the block from the store in Madison Avenue. She worked for Fila, and she liked my sneeze and told me that when she looked at the windows at Paul Stewart, it made her think of me. Tiff [00:26:46]: Oh, really? Reginald Ferguson [00:26:46]: Yeah. Which is very flattering. Tiff [00:26:52]: I don't know. That is. That's like a you got your brand. I guess. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:52]: I didn't think of it that way. And my boy, Tony Harris, who I think you've met, though you can't remember him. He start Tiff [00:26:59]: he started Old age, y'all. It is real. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:01]: Sorry to hear that. He started sharing what he knew about the brand which was always positive. So I started kinda getting interested. I caught my 1st suit from them around 5 years ago. It's a light blue joint, Prince of Wales check with a strong, royal blue stripe running through it. Single breasted. Tiff [00:27:23]: Really? Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:24]: You've seen it. It's on my website, actually. Single breasted, ticket pocket, mother of pearl buttons. It's wool, silk linen blend. Tiff [00:27:35]: Oh, nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:36]: It's far. I copped another one a few months ago. Tiff [00:27:41]: As in if, like, literally recently? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:45]: Yeah. But it hasn't it's not part of the rotation yet. Tiff [00:27:48]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:49]: Because I need some help. Big shout out to, my boy, Oscar Torres of Los Torres Tailors, supposed to supposed to help me with the sleeves there. Tiff [00:28:00]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:00]: So but it's single breasted, natural pearl, flower loop patch pockets. It's a charcoal gray with a navy blue windowpane. Oh. Oh, yeah. That's Tiff [00:28:11]: a Paul Stewart. Yes. Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:13]: And the wool is from Vitali. Tiff [00:28:17]: Oh, you like it? Reginald Ferguson [00:28:19]: Barbaris. Tiff [00:28:20]: Yeah. That's Your fave on it. You like him a lot, sir. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:23]: BBC in the building, and the pants have side tabs with a buckle. Tiff [00:28:28]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:29]: Just saying. Tiff [00:28:30]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:31]: I also have a faded blue wool, peacoat by them and a beige pair of Desert boots with a Vibram Soul. Tiff [00:28:38]: It sounds like it sounds like you have yourself decked out in Paul Stewart a little bit. I I represent a little something. Alright. So I got Reginald Ferguson [00:28:45]: I got a little going on. Tiff [00:28:46]: Alright. So tell me more about him. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:48]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tiff [00:28:49]: Who is he? Reginald Ferguson [00:28:49]: Yeah. Absolutely. So I think what makes Paul Stewart, the brand, a fashion hero is longevity. They've been in the game since 1938. Tiff [00:28:59]: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:00]: They started in the l e s. And like I said, this all came up, you know, props to the right, because I you know, I I wouldn't have thought about it. They started in the LES before they moved up to Madison Avenue. Tiff [00:29:10]: Alright. That's a clear, like, true Reginald Ferguson [00:29:13]: They were stitching beginning. Yeah. They were in the mix. Tiff [00:29:16]: Down in the lower east side where all the fabric started. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:19]: Right. And right, during the depression. Right. That's when they opened. I think Tiff [00:29:23]: I opened during the depression. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:25]: Yes. Tiff [00:29:25]: They opened a store. I know. Madison Avenue during the depreciate Reginald Ferguson [00:29:29]: I think it started in the l e s and then moved to Madison. I don't know the true chronology, but they definitely started during the depression. I mean, that in itself. Yeah. Tiff [00:29:36]: He's who starts a business in the middle of the depression? Reginald Ferguson [00:29:39]: That's chutzpah. Tiff [00:29:40]: So I guess people had to have clothes to wear. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:43]: I don't know how it worked out, but clearly, it did. I think its foundation is an interesting mix, meaning the brand. It's Ivy. The original logo is a is a cat sitting on a fence in Yale. Tiff [00:29:56]: What what do you mean it's Ivy? Reginald Ferguson [00:29:58]: Ivy. Ivy League trad. Tiff [00:29:59]: Got it. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:00]: Yeah. So English. K. The cut has something to do with that. I mean, they're called the American Savile Row in New York. Tiff [00:30:10]: So it's nicely tailored. Right. It's American Saddle Row. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:13]: Right. And New York. Tiff [00:30:15]: And New York. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:16]: A fashion and cultural capital. Tiff [00:30:18]: Three things. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:18]: Yes. Yeah. Those are the 3 pillars of the foundation in my mind. Tiff [00:30:22]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:22]: So with Brooks Brothers literally across the Street, I'm sure they had to figure out how to be different. Tiff [00:30:28]: Oh, really? Reginald Ferguson [00:30:29]: Yeah. Absolutely. They're literally across the street. Tiff [00:30:31]: I mean, Brooks Brothers. Really? You're gonna go toe to toe with Brooks Brothers in men's suiting? Reginald Ferguson [00:30:37]: Just in everything. Right? Just in as a men's brand and clothing. Right? Tiff [00:30:40]: Alright. Keep going. I wanna hear how they How they're still around. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:43]: Right. So I think I think initially, they were probably perceived as a Brooks Brothers copycat. I mean, even when I vaguely heard about them, I thought that. Tiff [00:30:53]: Oh, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:54]: And I didn't know a darn thing about them. So what is that saying? Just the perception. Tiff [00:30:58]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:58]: Being Ivy is regional. Tiff [00:31:00]: It's believing the lies. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:02]: Yeah. The hype. Tiff [00:31:04]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:04]: Being Ivy is regional, but representing New York is entirely different. Tiff [00:31:10]: Okay. So Representing New York. Now how do you do that? How do you represent New York, in a Savile Row way, with English sensibilities. I think get that right? Reginald Ferguson [00:31:26]: No. You got it right. I think you have to do it nimbly. I mean, again, I think they probably figured out, and I I wouldn't claim to know the canon, you know, of their history innately. But when you have Brooks Brothers across the street and you wanna you don't wanna be an imitator, you've gotta try to figure out something. And I think, again, that that triad of a foundation is so interesting. I'm gonna hearken back to a time when When you have when you have figured out that New York is really part of your steez, when you have Sinatra, Miles, and Art Blakely, My grandparent grandparents neighbor up in the Bronx. Tiff [00:32:02]: Really? Yeah. 6 degrees of separation. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:05]: Yeah. And and, the late Donald Byrd as well. So all in the same building complex. So when they're rolling in to the spot, that has to change the game. Tiff [00:32:16]: Yep. They could've gone to Brooks Brothers, but they did it. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:19]: Right. Tiff [00:32:19]: They went to Paul Stewart. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:20]: Right. And, also, what is that saying? That's saying, I think, a little bit more avant garde then, you know, Brooks, which is, you know, trad. So big shout out to caustic man. So The 3 foundational underpinnings made them unique. Okay. Remember we talked about the 2 double, the I'm sorry. The 2 button double breasted? Tiff [00:32:40]: Yes. Yeah. Was that Paul Stewart? Reginald Ferguson [00:32:44]: Paul Stewart was Is Tiff [00:32:44]: that their thing? Reginald Ferguson [00:32:45]: That that was a major they were a major proponent of that. Tiff [00:32:47]: Really? Yeah. That Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:49]: So, also the chambray shirt. Tiff [00:32:52]: What? Reginald Ferguson [00:32:53]: Yes. So I'm also impressed that they have, My man, James Williams, of A Stylish Way of Life, big shout out to him. I met him a few months ago at CTDA. They have him as a vendor for Pocket Squares. He's a African American brother. Tiff [00:33:08]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:09]: So they've spread the wealth as well. I mean, they've launched Phineas Cole, which has a more to me, a little bit more fitted. I wouldn't necessarily say Italian, but, you know, a different type of Steve's. Tiff [00:33:22]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:22]: And that's been around that that brand, that that spin off, that's been around for 10 years. Tiff [00:33:28]: Alright. I'm unfamiliar. But then again, Men's suiting and men's wear is your thing. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:33]: Yeah. Tiff [00:33:33]: I'm just here to I'm just here to help. Yeah. Phineas Cole, y'all. Let's look that up. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:39]: Yep. Phineas Cole. Custom Lab, which is a very new made to measure line. Tiff [00:33:43]: I've heard of Custom Lab. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:45]: Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, they have a dope video about the program, featuring this brother I see sometimes, out there in the streets. And, his name is Daryl Dismond. Tiff [00:33:55]: And they just they custom make you a suit Through Reginald Ferguson [00:33:58]: It's a made to measure program. Tiff [00:33:59]: Online. Do Reginald Ferguson [00:34:00]: you do it online? Well, I don't know if you can do it online, but I know you definitely can go to the store Okay. And do it. Tiff [00:34:05]: Alright. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:06]: So you really check out that video, y'all. It's really cool. Tiff [00:34:08]: Alright. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:10]: I think that that, that diversification will hopefully broaden their audience, which needs to get younger. I mean, let's keep it real. Tiff [00:34:18]: The Paul Stewart? Reginald Ferguson [00:34:19]: Yeah. I mean, I think any of these brands that have been around, you know, over 50 years Tiff [00:34:23]: You gotta keep up. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:24]: You have to keep up. I personally would like to give them props though on their customer service. I had a situation that initially started very south Oh. But quickly improved after I called them out. I'm not gonna get into detail. Tiff [00:34:43]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:44]: But that's kinda the reason why I started buying a few things. At first, I was like, oh, I will never get Anything from them ever. And maybe we'll we'll talk about that story another time. I don't wanna do it now. I wanna keep it I wanna keep it positive. Tiff [00:34:57]: Keep our hero positive. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:59]: Yeah. But, you know, in order to be a hero, sometimes you have to overcome adversity. Tiff [00:35:03]: That is true. Superman, yo. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:06]: If you add all those things together that I've discussed, I think it makes you, a fashion hero. So kudos to, Paul Stewart. Tiff [00:35:14]: The fact that they've been around for so long And that that Frank Sinatra was one of their fan. Now I found him to in his dress, he was very snappy, very, very Tailored, but also sort of in a loose kind of way of the day. Meaning, it was fitted, but it wasn't, like, super fitted. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:36]: Okay. Tiff [00:35:36]: Like, I guess, Balmain, which is super tight, super skinny. He always looked really jazzy, And I guess that's what mean well, that's what American means, kind of a little jazzy. Like, Brooks Brothers Reginald Ferguson [00:35:49]: the jazz. Tiff [00:35:50]: Brooks Brothers to me is very English straight laced kind of preppy, kinda I don't know. It just Reginald Ferguson [00:35:58]: Definitely preppy. I mean, I wouldn't think English per se, but, You know? Again, it's Trad. So Tiff [00:36:04]: What is Trad? I want Traditional. Traditional. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:06]: Ivy, traditional. Alright. They're they're intertwined. I'm sure Tiff [00:36:09]: there was some listeners out there going, what does he mean by trad? Because I I need to whenever I have that question, I need to try. No. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:16]: No. No. Absolutely. Absolutely. Tiff [00:36:17]: Full of those others who might have it as well. Absolutely. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:19]: No. And I mean, I I'm I'm when I was a kid, I was down with the golden fleece. No question about it. Tiff [00:36:26]: The Golden Fleece? Reginald Ferguson [00:36:27]: The Golden Fleece. Tiff [00:36:28]: What's that? Reginald Ferguson [00:36:28]: That's the that's the logo for, Brooks Brothers. Tiff [00:36:31]: Oh, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:31]: Yes. Tiff [00:36:33]: They should learn. Well, very nice very nice hero. I think so. I wanna go check out Paul Stewart now. I've probably seen Hall Stewart and just didn't realize. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:44]: Yeah. Those windows those windows are hot. And and and Well, Tiff [00:36:47]: I don't hit Madison Avenue often enough. That's for sure. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:50]: That's, That could be changed. Tiff [00:36:52]: Every time I ride a bus, I'm like, oh, I need to I need to stop and look at that. I need to stop and look at that. I mean, I walk up this street. I can't buy anything, but I can look. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:00]: They have great woman stuff. Tiff [00:37:02]: Yeah. Yeah. So I I so I saw. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:04]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Multilevel spot. Tiff [00:37:08]: I can do the, the the window shopping along Madison Avenue. Maybe I'll do that for the holiday season. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:13]: Don't press, your face too close to the glass too. Tiff [00:37:16]: Yeah. They'll get me. Anyway, very nice. Yay. I like him. I like him a lot. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:21]: Oh, good. Good. Good. I'm glad. Tiff [00:37:22]: You have to come in next time wearing a Paul Stewart so I can So I can say. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:26]: Oh, if it Okay. If it ties in with the day of my, of my suit rotation, you shall. Tiff [00:37:32]: Oh my god. God forbid you take a suit out of order in your rotation. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:38]: No. Never. Tiff [00:37:38]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:40]: That's a Thursday suit, by the way. Tiff [00:37:41]: And that is that's one of the rules, I guess, whenever you whenever you know, we haven't mentioned your, your business or the Instagram, so we probably should take the time now, You know, to say. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:52]: Oh, yeah. Well, I forgot to because, you know, it's been so long, so we're out of practice. Yes. Tiff [00:37:57]: We're not here just to talk. You know? Reginald Ferguson [00:37:59]: No. No. That's true. That's true. I have a business, everybody. I am a fashion consultant. My business is called New York Fashion Geek. We try to help men improve their look. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:10]: We go from closet inventory to personal shopping and everything in between. You should consider me a personal trainer for fashion. Tiff [00:38:17]: Yes. There it is. That's the phrase. That's what gets us going in the morning. And with that, you have your rules that you will, you know, impart on any client that comes to you and needs some help as far as, You know, fleshing out their closet or going into their closet and and and purging it Reginald Ferguson [00:38:36]: Yes. Tiff [00:38:36]: And helping to put Different things together in new ways. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:39]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:38:40]: And, this whole order suit order thing is, interesting. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:45]: Thank you. Well, that's that's uniquely me. Tiff [00:38:47]: That's but it it could be something that might be good for someone else. You know? Reginald Ferguson [00:38:50]: Think so. I mean, it it makes my life easy. Only thing I have to do is just go Tiff [00:38:55]: So people cannot people can contact you through your Instagram? Reginald Ferguson [00:38:59]: Yes. You can find me on insta@newyorkfashiongeek. You can find me on the web@nyfashiongeek.com. Tiff [00:39:08]: You can email me the email. Stewart. You said you had it you had it Reginald Ferguson [00:39:12]: I do. I do. I think I have I have at least 1 photo of it. Tiff [00:39:15]: Brilliant. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:16]: This fire. Tiff [00:39:18]: I think it's time we should move to our, next and final segment. We're going back on old school. Say well, it's not old school. We've done it every time. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:26]: Yes. Tiff [00:39:27]: We're gonna run out of words one day. I know. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:29]: No. We're not. Tiff [00:39:30]: This is fashion word of the day. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:32]: Well, no. That's not what we're doing right now too. Oh. Wake up. Tiff [00:39:35]: I'm sorry. I jumped ahead. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:36]: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Tiff [00:39:37]: I'm sorry. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:38]: Right now, it's time for I must have it. Tiff [00:39:53]: Oh, that's your favorite segment. Alright, Reg. The I must have it. And what we mean by this is you must have it. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:02]: Yes. Tiff [00:40:03]: Reg must have it, and so you must have it as well, our listeners. So what is our I must have it item? Reginald Ferguson [00:40:10]: The Timex Peanuts Marlin automatic featuring Charlie Brown. Tiff [00:40:16]: Charlie Brown. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:17]: Charlie Brown watch. Timex Peanuts Collabo. Tiff [00:40:20]: So I, I have to say, I notice a theme here. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:25]: Yes. Tiff [00:40:26]: You are a Peanuts fan. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:28]: I love Peanuts. Tiff [00:40:29]: And this must be, To you know, to go with your Snoopy watch. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:33]: I never got the Snoopy watch. Tiff [00:40:34]: Oh, you didn't get it? Reginald Ferguson [00:40:35]: Still is something to aspire to us. Tiff [00:40:37]: Oh, it's still on your Christmas list? Reginald Ferguson [00:40:40]: It says on the reg list. Tiff [00:40:41]: On the reg? Yes. I want I must have it list? Reginald Ferguson [00:40:44]: Yes. Absolutely. No. I didn't get it. Yes. The Todd Snyder Peanuts Collabo through Timex, actually. Tiff [00:40:50]: Right. This is the 2nd Timex watch that you've had in your I must have it. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:54]: I know. So you have Tiff [00:40:55]: a thing for Timex too. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:57]: I have a thing. I I well, I grew up with Timex. Tiff [00:41:00]: This is what I'm talking about. I had a Yeah. My first watch was a Timex. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:03]: Keeps looking, keeps on ticking. Tiff [00:41:05]: That's exactly right. And who I mean, with the saying like that, you gotta buy a watch. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:10]: Back then, yes. Absolutely. Tiff [00:41:11]: Well, let's get, let's get back onto this, this Marlin watch from Timex with, with, the lovely Charlie Brown flying a kite On the, face of it. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:22]: Sure. Well, I mean, you know by now how much I like watches. Tiff [00:41:25]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:26]: I'm rocking a watch right now. Tiff [00:41:27]: I've learned a lot from you regarding watches because, you know, before this podcast, I would just wear a watch. Like, I didn't know anything about it. So, Let's, let's talk about, it's a 19 sixties design, the Marlin. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:43]: Yeah. Tiff [00:41:43]: Yeah. They initially designed this watch back in the 19 sixties. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:47]: Yes. That's correct. Tiff [00:41:48]: It was a it's it was called the Mid Century Marlin. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:51]: Yes. Tiff [00:41:52]: And, by mid century, meaning mid middle of the century Of the 1900. So 19 fifties, 19 sixties. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:59]: Yeah. Tiff [00:41:59]: And it was a modern design, and that meant it was, very sleek and simp simple, I guess we can call it. And, and it's, being brought back today. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:12]: Yeah. It's smooth. Stainless steel. It's very clean with the markings. And the thing about, like, I don't know. The thing I like about this is it's black and white, essentially. It's a it's a monochromatic setup. Tiff [00:42:23]: Yeah. Very, very just Simple. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:26]: But I love it because Charlie Brown is there with his kite. Tiff [00:42:29]: And it's a it's like a line drawing of Charlie Brown and the kite. It's not even, like, a A big cartoon Reginald Ferguson [00:42:35]: No. But it's a it's a full but it's a full yeah. It's a full illustration. If any of you know, Charlie Brown has a rough history with kites. So the fact that it's Tiff [00:42:46]: As do I. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:47]: The fact that it's aloft Tiff [00:42:49]: Yeah. Is is a miracle. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:50]: Is a is an achievement. I just love the placement there at the 6. Tiff [00:42:54]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:55]: The illustration. Tiff [00:42:56]: Got a little calendar window. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:58]: Yes. Tiff [00:42:59]: And it's a black leather strap. So it's swanky a little bit. Yes. You could wear it with suits as well as with, you know, your jeans or your sweats. So it's very Casual, but can be dressed up. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:12]: It's flexible. Tiff [00:43:13]: Yeah. It's flexible. That's the word. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:14]: Yes. Tiff [00:43:15]: You know what was interesting when I was looking at this watch? It it's, one of the things it said about it is a 21 jewel automatic movement. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:23]: Yes. Tiff [00:43:23]: And I was like, what is 21 jewel? I and what is and I'm looking at the watch, and I go, I don't see any jewels on this watch. And I'm looking and I'm looking. And so I'm like, alright. Let me ask the Google. What's 21 jewel automatic? And I found out Reginald Ferguson [00:43:38]: It's inside. Tiff [00:43:40]: It's inside the watch. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:42]: Yes. Tiff [00:43:43]: I know. I I'm I'm new to watching. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:46]: It's okay. It's okay. Tiff [00:43:47]: So for other novice watch people, let me explain what this is. So all the workings inside the watch, instead of it being metal on metal, because things move and things pivot and things, you know, rub against each other, the metal would sort of wear down, and the functionality of the watch would die, basically. So they replaced it Back in the old days when they were making watches, Reginald Ferguson [00:44:09]: they Jewel Tiff [00:44:10]: jewels. Actual jewels, like diamonds and sapphires, hard jewels. They had to be hard, like diamonds, sapphires, and rubies. Today, mostly, it's all synthetic jewels. But, so the 21 jewel automatic movement means that there's 21 little teeny tiny jewels inside this little watch making everything move. And, mainly, in in the automatic watch movements, That's where you're gonna find these jewels, and it redo they reduce friction in bearings and pivotal points, meaning less frequent service, And it keeps the mechanical parts better aligned, meaning better accuracy of the watch. Wow. Isn't that something? Yeah. Tiff [00:44:49]: That's cool. So There it is. 21 jewel automatic, which I thought was the most amazing thing about this watch. I mean, I love Charlie Brown. Don't get me wrong. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:58]: I just like it because it has Charlie Brown. Tiff [00:45:00]: And it's Timex. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:02]: I'm gonna get 1. Tiff [00:45:03]: Keep on takes a look and keep on taking. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:05]: Yes. That's that's very good. Tiff [00:45:08]: So everybody run out, this watch is very affordable. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:10]: It's a A 100 bag of shells. Tiff [00:45:13]: $129, I think, on Reginald Ferguson [00:45:14]: the Timex .com. Really? Tiff [00:45:16]: Can you get it on sale? Reginald Ferguson [00:45:17]: No. I saw it 249. Tiff [00:45:19]: Oh, maybe it was 249 I was looking at at a 120. Sorry about that. Yeah. Yeah. It's the 21 jewels. Very nice. Very nice. I can absolutely see you wearing this watch, and if I had the money, I'd totally buy it for you. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:31]: Aw. Thank you, Tiff. Christmas is coming. Tiff [00:45:34]: I would get you the whole Peanuts character thing. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:36]: That'd be cool. Tiff [00:45:37]: Alright. Now can we do fashion word of the day? Reginald Ferguson [00:45:39]: Oh, I got. Yes. Tiff [00:45:40]: I'm so excited because I'm gonna win. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:48]: Fashion Word of the Day. Okay. Okay. Tiff [00:45:55]: Alright. So what this segment is is we each bring a word. We present it to one another. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:59]: Yes. Tiff [00:45:59]: And, you know, I present you a word. You have to define it, Spell it and use it in a sentence Yes. If you can define it. If you can't define it and you can't spell it, then we just don't even try to use it in a sentence. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:09]: What you got, Tiff? Tiff [00:46:10]: Alright. You ready? Yes. To go first? Sure. Bessam Pockets. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:16]: Bessam Pocket? We've already done that to you. Tiff [00:46:19]: Have we? Reginald Ferguson [00:46:20]: Oh. Please give her a double, triple buzz search. Yep. So anyway so here's mine. Shawl collar. Tiff [00:46:32]: Of course, I know what a shawl collar is. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:34]: Okay. Well, why don't you spell it? Tiff [00:46:36]: Shwlspace c o l l a r, shawl collar. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:42]: Yes. Tiff [00:46:44]: I'll use it in a sentence. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:46]: Yes, please. Well well, how about you define it? Tiff [00:46:48]: Oh, first, I have to define be slick. Well, a shawl collar is a collar that basically, it's the same Size all the way around. There's no notch in it. It meets in the back of the neck. The 2 pieces come you know, are sewn together, and then it comes around to the front Of the suit jacket and just lays very elegantly all the way down to the top button. And you usually see shawl collars on, tuxedos, or smoking jackets. Very nice, very elegant, very beautiful. Most of the time, they're either silk Or velvet or, a nice sort of jacquard kind of brocade. Tiff [00:47:27]: Very swanky. Very swanky. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:29]: You killed it, Tiff. How about a sentence? Tiff [00:47:32]: When I am going to the opera, I like to pair my shawl collared tux With my opera pumps. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:39]: Oh, wow. Okay. You totally Tiff [00:47:41]: Did I kick it out of Reginald Ferguson [00:47:42]: the ballpark? From my game. Kicked it out of the ballpark? Okay. Yes. That was, That's quite a sportsmanual prop. Tiff [00:47:48]: I always always mix my metaphors no matter how hard I try. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:52]: Well, you rocked it. And, hopefully, maybe next time, you'll come up with a word that We've never, Tiff [00:47:56]: I had a feeling. I'm like, oh, this is such a good one. I've used it before. I'm sure. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:00]: When our producer makes a face, and he produces a lot of podcasts. That means that he remembered, and, you blew it. Tiff [00:48:08]: Good job. Good job, Serge. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:10]: Well, that's a wrap. Thank you so much for listening. We hope you had fun or are down for another one. Please tell your friends about us. Special shout out goes to our producer, Serge, who was on it for the fashion word. Clearly, he's paying attention. He's not just scribbling. Tiff [00:48:23]: He looks like he's just totally in a different world, but he is not. He is here. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:30]: Oh, that's a little scary. That sounds like my grandma. Tiff [00:48:34]: That's a horror movie right there. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:35]: Did that all the time. Just rest in my eyes. There's a but, grandma, you're asleep. I'm just resting my eyes. Tiff [00:48:40]: Just resting my eyes. I heard that one too. Alright. Yes. Please visit us online. Go to Instagram. Check out Allredge's, Sweet Sweetwares. And, make sure you, Reginald Ferguson [00:48:50]: Sweetwares. Tiff [00:48:51]: Yeah. Sweetwares. Always check out the podcast. We try to we try Gotta put a couple out each month. I see. You know, it's a little tough with my travel schedule and the upcoming holiday schedule coming up. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:02]: Oh, boy. Wasn't Tiff [00:49:03]: it? You can always go back to our prior episodes if you're new. And if you've been hanging with us this entire time, thank you so much for coming back each time. We really appreciate you. And drop us a line. Let us know if you have any questions or if you have any kind of fashion word of the day you want us to, throw out there or a I must have an item you want us to Explorer, please. Communicate. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:26]: Absolutely. And big on the podcast tip, just wanna tell everybody, we are now officially on Pandora. What? That's right. You can find us now on Pandora. Not just iTunes, not just Stitcher, not just SoundCloud, not just Spotify, Pandora. Tiff [00:49:46]: Nice. Very nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:48]: Thank you. Tiff [00:49:49]: Thank you all. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:50]: We will see you next time. I'm Reg. Tiff [00:49:54]: And I'm Tiff. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:55]: And remember, Tiff [00:49:56]: Always be fly.